March 19, 2003

TACITUS, AGRICOLA 30.

Raptores orbis, postquam cuncta vastantibus defuere terrae, mare scrutantur: si locuples hostis est, avari, si pauper, ambitiosi, quos non Oriens, non Occidens satiaverit: soli omnium opes atque inopiam pari adfectu concupiscunt. Auferre trucidare rapere falsis nominibus imperium, atque ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant.

Posted by languagehat at March 19, 2003 11:11 PM
Comments

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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Posted by: Al-Munaqabah at March 20, 2003 02:41 AM

It should perhaps be noted that the speaker of this fine speech (a Briton) was on the losing side, the side which can only lament but never rectify the unfortunate truism: might makes "right." The sole exception being, one hopes, in the historian's annals. ...quos non Oriens, non Occidens satiaverit - indeed.

Posted by: MFC at March 20, 2003 06:18 AM

An English rendering for those who, like me, are very rusty on their high school Latin.

Posted by: Songdog at March 20, 2003 10:23 AM

Thanks, Songdog. I provided a translation in a mouseover, but I realize not everyone can read mouseovers. Besides, yours is livelier.

Posted by: language hat at March 20, 2003 10:46 AM

You're welcome - I overlooked the mouseover (although I did click on the link). FYI: I just went back to check, and at least in Mozilla 1.3 beta (on Windows 2000) the title text is too long to see in its entirety.

Posted by: Songdog at March 20, 2003 05:01 PM

Perhaps the most interesting thing about this, aside from the fact that it was true then and is true then, is that it was almost certainly NOT spoken by a Briton.

Tacitus probably made this up, putting into his mouth the things 'Calgacus' would have said.

Posted by: Greg at March 21, 2003 08:57 AM

Well, yeah, but that pretty much goes without saying for all speeches reported long after the fact before the invention of the tape recorder. (See: Thucydides. And let's face it, speeches by modern politicians are just as faked; the difference is it's done before the fact and they don't have ghostwriters of the stature of Thucydides and Tacitus.) Granted, in this case who knows if Calgacus even made a speech -- he may have just bared his teeth and snarled in a go-get-em way -- but who cares, it's a great speech.

Posted by: language hat at March 21, 2003 10:04 AM

Clearly they are Tacitus' own words - he was not with the Britons listening to their speech, and even if he was, he couldn't have understood the language they were speaking.

Posted by: Neil at November 6, 2005 06:22 PM