Just in case any of you were under the impression that a wild-eyed descriptivist like myself was incapable of applying the silly-but-fun traditional Rules of Grammar, here's my result from the quiz that's making the rounds:
You're welcome, but my mission in life is to wipe out everything you hold dear. En garde! Posted by languagehat at April 6, 2004 11:11 AM
You are a GRAMMAR GOD!
If your mission in life is not already to
preserve the English tongue, it should be.
Congratulations and thank you!
How grammatically sound are you?
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I am, of course, also a God, but I split the infinitive and shunned "whom" and generally answered as myself.
One theory is that it is clever ("smart") enough to approve of more than one consistent set of choices; another is that my divinity transcends the petty details you Earth people are so extensively preoccupied with.
Posted by: des at April 6, 2004 11:22 AMHurrah, a master of English! And only educated to the British minimum. I knew that reading this site every day was worth it. If only I could use my expertise to communicate I'd be in business, as it were.
Posted by: James Noonan at April 6, 2004 11:42 AMIt's a pity it doesn't show the "correct" answers when you're finished...
Posted by: Johanka at April 6, 2004 01:08 PMThe Prescriptivist Pantheon grows ever larger.
Hey, now that we're gods, can't we just decree this kind of crap right out of existence? You have the power now, LH! Your mission can be realized!
Something must be wrong in this Divine Universe - if I'm a God[ess] too.
With my ocasional "hair" instead of "hare" (sorry, PF, that's what I meant, dah)!
Verily, languagehat is the blog of the Gods! Greetings, fellow dieties! What say we go cause a few mudslides in Appalachia?
Posted by: Michael Farris at April 6, 2004 03:06 PMPersonally, I'd prefer it if you set off the mudslides elsewhere.
How about DC as an alternative?
Posted by: Michelle at April 6, 2004 03:53 PMA bit overdone - in Afghanistan, this morning: 6.6 on Richter scale...
Posted by: Tatyana at April 6, 2004 04:00 PMPerhaps we should stick to the occasional appearance in a Mexican frying pan?
Posted by: Michael Farris at April 6, 2004 04:56 PMLoved the quiz, especially since I got deified. (Important to me as an ESL teacher, a profession some of us with linguistics degrees have, but that was another topic.)
Just want to share something with fellow posters. I once commented on the use of a double modal, thinking it was reserved for speakers of Black vernacular English or Ebonics. An example would be "she may can find the book" instead of the standard "she may be able to find the book." Just this afternoon, I heard a Congressman who I know to be white and from the South, use this double modal.
Moi, je suis un dieu aussi; but some of the sample sentences were in such need of rewriting that what diff would an "error" make? Duke Ellington said of music, "If it sounds good, it is good." Ditto.
Posted by: Bradford at April 6, 2004 05:12 PMNot to impugn anyone's deification, but I think the standards of godhood may be somewhat generous. I'm one too, and my reaction to most of the questions was "why would anyone say it like that?"
If you're a native speaker and you can't figure out what word sounds right in a sentence, chances are the sentence should be led behind the barn and shot, in favour of a clearer sentence.
I was fascinated by the shall/will crossover as a kid. For some reason I loved the idea that my own language had rules no one knew.
Posted by: Qov at April 6, 2004 05:22 PMToby, double modals are well-attested among whites in some parts of the South (most commonly 'might could'). The CW is that the phenomenon originated in Scotland, where many white southerners trace their ancestory to.
Yes -- actually, I have never heard an AAVE speaker produce a double modal, but I hear white Southerners use them all the time. I just talked to my freshman composition class about double modals today (I was trying to convince them that they all speak dialects of English). All the native South Carolinian white students knew what I was talking about; everyone else just giggled.
Sorry for the derail. Don't anybody smite me, okay? I'm one of you.
Posted by: Eva at April 6, 2004 05:43 PMHas anyone taken this and NOT been deified?
Posted by: Kerim Friedman at April 6, 2004 06:16 PMare me grammar god.how happening those.
Hey, I got it, I get to wear the pin, and now since I am omnipotent I shall decide for myself which rules are worthy of a deity. I easily saw through their “alright/all right” question, but for me the spellings have completely different connotations. The “all” in the correct version always makes me think that things are supposed to be completely right if one says, and that is not what I mean when I say my day was alright. So in my sphere of grammatical influence, now arbitrarily widened to 20 paces through the result of a random Internet quiz declaring my godhood, “alright” is alright by me.
Posted by: Nathaniel at April 6, 2004 06:32 PMHas anyone taken this and NOT been deified?
Yeah, me.
This master cannot say "Suzie is much taller than he" without wincing.
Posted by: stephen at April 6, 2004 06:35 PMDamn...damn...damn...I get deified and in the above paragraph I meant to write “if one says that,” instead of “if one says,”.
Now I shall have to leave somehow this company of gods, and found a grammatical pandæmonium. Or become the “trickster god” of some very strange class teaching ESL. A class where students have different cultural archetypes regularly attending in some form…
Posted by: Nathaniel at April 6, 2004 06:37 PMI'm with stephen, exactly.
"...taller than he"? I don't think so.
Posted by: Sigivald at April 6, 2004 07:03 PMI'd never say it either, but I know how to answer tests -- I learned at an early age never to be honest with the powerful. (Not that the people who made up this test have any power, but you know what I mean.)
Toby: Plenty of people in my own family say "might could," and I've been known to come out with it from time to time (usually when speaking with the Texan who shares my office).
Posted by: language hat at April 6, 2004 07:13 PMI am a God also, despite being forced to choose options which I would never use in real life.
Posted by: dan at April 6, 2004 07:37 PMYep, apotheosis for me too. We'll be outnumbering the Hindu pantheon soon.
Posted by: aldiboronti at April 7, 2004 02:48 AMI didn't say "taller than he", either, since that isn't grammatical in any language I speak. Am I really the only honest god here?
False gods, prepare for your twilights!
Posted by: des at April 7, 2004 04:15 AMI did it a few times, with different answers for the really questionable ones. But I'm still a God.
Maybe it's not that prescriptivist.
Or... maybe they give out godhood like Jehovah's Witnesses handing out the Watchtower.
*looks sadly at Certificate of Divinity, puts it at back of closet with high school graduation certificate, shelves plans to remake world*
Ah well, at least Appalachia can rest easy.
Well if this be Goetterdaemmerung, then I guess there's nothing left for languagehat to do but ride his faithful steed into the fire ...
Posted by: Michael Farris at April 7, 2004 12:17 PMHey, I'm a god too (though it took all my willpower to resist "had sneaken".) Even if languagehat won't, I'll dedicate my life to preserving the distinction between "disinterested" and "uninterested".
Posted by: ben wolfson at April 7, 2004 12:24 PM"Taller than he"? I chose "taller than him". Of course, I also refused to put punctuation marks within quotes unless they belong there.
I still got deified, though. I'd really like to look at the scoring method.
Posted by: Chainik at April 7, 2004 01:27 PMDo we get to choose which god/dess we are? I fancy myself as a kind of Minerva nodding sleepily away in my little corner of the world.
Posted by: Eliza at April 7, 2004 02:10 PMI don't think I take this test seriously either. I got "godhood" too and I can't spell English worth a damn. I'm not sure I ever even studied English grammar formally, all my actual classroom study of language has been in other languages. I just picked the answer that seemed best, including splitting an infinitive.
Posted by: Scott Martens at April 8, 2004 03:02 AMMe also gots grammar god.
Posted by: bryan at April 8, 2004 07:48 AMGod(dess) also.
Oh, come on, we get points just for being language geeks who care enough about such things to take the silly test already :)
Posted by: speedwell at April 8, 2004 09:57 AMa. I am a God.
a. Uh, test? Wait a minute, what test?
a. I didn't take no stinkin' test: I thought we were just doing introductions. "Me God. You?"
(But seriously, come on folks, if you need an internet test to tell you whether you're divine or not, well, that sounds just like the sort of scheme Satan likes to cook up...)
Posted by: commonbeauty at April 8, 2004 07:15 PMwoohoo! I am a Grammar Goddess ;)
Posted by: medusa at April 8, 2004 09:41 PMGeorge Bernard Shaw was rite, Why don't they.
Posted by: scarabaeus stercus at April 10, 2004 12:09 AMNow that I have been deified, I demand good sacrifices. And none of this hiding-the-bones-and-sinews-under-the-snow-white-fat-scraps crap either.
Ha. I, too, know how to take tests to the extent that I can skew nearly any webquiz how I like. That alone should prove divinity....
Posted by: M o I at April 10, 2004 08:41 AMWhen people, who know traditional rules, try to correct you
it may be stupid. But it is much worse when those, who
are completely ignorant, want to 'correct' your English
by imposing the forms that are 'wrong'. That is by far
much more irritating and absurd.
I had seen a movie about Britney Spear's life. I guess she is
as American as her mother. But I noticed something odd.
In a certain moment, her mother says: 'we were poor',
[puar], like most Americans say it. Then, Brtiney Spears
corrects her and say: 'we were poor' [pawr], which is almost
the common standard British form [paw].
In another movie I heard a man using the 'correct' case
form in a sentence that had: 'you and me'. And the other
guy told him 'it is "you and I"'. And Mad Mag criticised
pastors (together with the King James' Bible)
for saying things like 'it is I...', prescribing 'it is me...'.
By the way, most Brazilians get surprised when I tell
them that the place Japan attacked in WWII is called 'Pearl
Harbour' and not 'Peer'. And some childrent want the others to pronounce 'monkey' as [mon kay] and laugh at [mankee].
> Mount Olympus fills up with yet more gods.
> Yowza.
Is that where they make cameras, or just where they mount them?
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