Wow. Though ever since I read that book "The Mother Tongue," I saw how much English has been in flux, so it's changed my perspective on how rigid it "should" be. And this is a separate issue from standard communication, btw.

huh?

That I will learn to articulate correctly as many words as possible

And in other 'Curious Cosmic Coincidences' news, "My Fair Lady" is on tv (CT1) tonight. BRB, gotta catch some rain in Spain.

What I meant was that this was an effort to encourage people to speak correct English, and I used to think that the concept of "correct" was set in stone and didn't alter much throughout English's history until I read that book. My other statement was to imply that I don't condone the absence of standardization for wider communication. I just didn't provide a segue :D

uuuuuh.

Wow, I haven't felt so strong an urge to berate the long-dead about language since I tried to read the public domain modern Greek grammars from the late 1800s on Google Books (turns out, Plato pronounced the alphabet like a modern Athenian, and Erasmus was a dummy).

Just one: I wonder what exotic locale 'nope' was thought to hail from?

They did a good job of keeping "nup-um" out of the language, at least.
I especially like how leaving off final syllables is equated with "dishonor[ing one's] country's speech." No wonder the French are so unpatriotic and cowardly! (joking, of course)

They did a good job of keeping "nup-um" out of the language, at least.

- Did so.
- Did not.
- Uh-huh.
- ______.

What is the standard orthography for the opposite of uh-huh? nun't-uh?

"What is the standard orthography for the opposite of uh-huh?"

uh-uh. (at least that's my standard orthography from the nasal grunts in question)

Curious, though, that the h in uh marks a "short" u, as opposed to its purpose with the other vowels with which it occurs. For example, oh is a folky way of marking a "long" o. So to write.

For me:

ah = father (non-rhotics use 'ar' for this just to mess with other people's minds)

eh = bet

ih = hit

oh = low, toe

uh = but

so that's three out of five 'short' vowels, one 'long' and one non-participating.

'nuh-uh' would be my version of 'nup-um'. I think out of distaste they may have miswritten that one, unless the 'p' is somehow supposed to represent a glottal stop.

Well Michael, "short" and "long" are fluffy sorts of notions here, as we know. Is ih your non-participator? The case of eh is interesting. It does mark "shortness", I agree. But then, I would make it two all: ah and oh are "lengthening"; eh and uh are "shortening". How do you make it one/three? Is it, in the end, because there are two "long" versions of "a", as in "fate" and "father", as opposed to the short one in "fat"? I demand a recount.

(Foney pholk fonology, or what?!)

Phony pholk phonology used in the system used to teach me to read in elementary school forty or so years ago. Bonus: behold the power of the 'silent e'!!!

a

short = fat
long = fate

e

short = pet
long = Pete

i

short = bit
long = bite

o

short = hop
long = hope

u

short = cut, rub
long = cute, rube

(in other words the [j] onglide for 'long u' was somtimes not present)

Of course all this is purest nonsense from a linguistics point of view but it's certainly not the worst way to achieve english literacy.
I think one of the luckiest things to ever happen to me was that I was taught to read with a phonics kind of system rather than 'whole language' ... brrrrrrrrrrrrrr

so, if we look at the list again

ah = not the typical 'a' sound in NAmerican usage (unless followed by r). actually, in my dialect, it's the 'short o' sound (in the sentence "Father caught a cod", the three stressed vowels are identical in my dialect).

eh = the short e as in 'bet'

ih = short i as in 'hid'

oh = long o as in 'hope'

uh = short u as in 'luck'

So that's actually 4 'short' vowels (with a for o) and 1 'long' vowel.

Ah Michael, that explains it. I had a similar fonical phormation, all those years ago. But I suppose the details must vary by "metalinguistic tradition" and by spoken variety. The long and short of it is that long and short are pretty obtuse qualifiers, as applied colloquially. Like hard and soft, yes? What exactly makes g pronounced /g/ "hard", and g pronounced /dj/ "soft"? (Isn't that a rhetorical question, like this one too?)

Well, I would agree, at the very least, that it's disrespectful to leave off the last syllable of "country."