A recent Ask MetaFilter question asks "Do you call your grandfather Bumpy?"
I've known a couple people in my time who called their grandfathers by the title Bumpy [lastname]... I assumed that it was Southern (or maybe Texan) and that it was uncommon, but not completely unheard of. A short office conversation now has me wondering if it's just some weird thing that a couple of the people I know have in common.As a grandfather myself (though one who goes by the boringly standard "Grandpa"), I am curious about this. So: are you familiar with this usage? If so, where are you from (or where is the user from)? Posted by languagehat at May 15, 2008 08:50 PM1. Do/did you call your grandfather Bumpy?
2. If so, where did you grow up?
It suggest to me the sort of toddler mispronounciation of "Grandpa" which is then taken up by the family as an affectionate term. Toddler misrpronounciation as "Grumpy",however, would probably not be adopted.
The only possibility that suggests itself to me is some connection to The Deerslayer or Last of the Mohicans.
Posted by: kishnevi at May 15, 2008 09:50 PMWell, Sid Schwab managed to turn Mildred into Moomump for whatever that's worth.
I've never used anything but 'farmor/-far' and 'mormor/-far' - never 'bedstefar/-mor'. Oddly enough I've almost always been on a firstname basis with my parents which I've since come to realise is rather unusual.
Posted by: Sili at May 15, 2008 10:02 PMI'm from Texas and I've never heard Bumpy before.
Posted by: Rosie at May 15, 2008 10:04 PMWell, my youngest niece calls my dad "Pocky," which sounds like a related concept. (He wanted to be called Grandpa, but alas.)
Posted by: Dave at May 15, 2008 10:46 PMI'll let you all know in a year or two.
Posted by: John Cowan at May 16, 2008 12:21 AMThe only "Bumpy" I've ever heard of is Bumpy Kanahele, a Hawaiian nationalist who opposes the Akaka bill.
Posted by: Joel at May 16, 2008 02:26 AMMy father is now known as Pumper because this was how his first grandchild rendered the word "Grandpa".
The grandfather of his wife (my step-mother) was known as Bumper for exactly the same reason.
We are English, my step-mother is Scottish.
I presume in terms of developing speech production in babies "b" and "p" sounds come before "g" sounds.
But what about grannies? Are there any Bannies? Pannies? I've never heard of any. Strange.
Posted by: rr at May 16, 2008 03:29 AMA schoolfriend of mine (south UK) called his grandfather 'Bomper'... for similar reasons as above.
Posted by: grimace at May 16, 2008 08:28 AMBut what about grannies? Are there any Bannies? Pannies? I've never heard of any. Strange.
Yes my great grandmother was always known as Banny. She would've been 3rd generation Australian of Scottish extraction.
I've always considered it to be derived from an ancient toddler mispronunciation of "Granny".
Posted by: Andrew Dunbar at May 16, 2008 12:49 PMThe Houston Oilers' coach in the 1970's was "Bum" Phillips; the name was glossed as a clip of "bummer," his baby sister's version of "brother."
Posted by: rootlesscosmo at May 16, 2008 02:08 PMI remember reading a bit a while back on the typical development of early-childhood phonetic discrimination/production -- specifically the notion that a very rudimentary initial set of sounds (one plosive for all of "p" and "b" and "g" and "t") trees out over a period of months/years into increasingly specific individual sounds -- and that got me thinking about the variants people have reported over on askme.
Since "that's how the kid mispronounced 'grampa'" seems like such a common, plausible explanation, it'd be interesting to see someone put together a model of e.g. Likely Nicknames For Grandpa based on what's known about phonetic development. (As well, perhaps, from what's known of adult biases in lay interpretations of Cute Kid Speech.)
Posted by: Josh Millard at May 16, 2008 02:50 PMThe variation "Bompa" is also to be found at
http://www.fact-archive.com/dictionary/Grandfather
My brother and I called our grandmother BamBam becaue I couldn't say Grandma. Grandpa was just Grandpa, though, and I have no idea why. I doubt I could say it right, but no nickname stuck with him. I and my parents are from California, but BamBam was from Arkansas.
Posted by: Angelique at May 16, 2008 03:26 PMMy daughter calls her (very good natured) grandfather "Grumpy" which he seems to like. It stems from very early mispronunciation.... I've never heard "Bumpy" before.
Posted by: rumple at May 16, 2008 03:57 PMJosh Millard: There's also another issue tangled up with the developmental issue; Given an intermediate phoneme produced by a child, how are the adults likely to interpret it?
Posted by: David Harmon at May 16, 2008 05:44 PMMy greatgrandfather was known as Bumpa; he was a Danish immigrant. He and his grandchildren lived in the Boston area.
Posted by: Lisa at May 16, 2008 08:55 PMA whole compendium of grandpa and grandma terms here:
http://www.banananana.com/ReadNames.asp
(And, I'm sure you've heard the line that goes, "If I had known how much fun grandchildren are, I would have had them first.")
Posted by: Martin at May 16, 2008 11:17 PMI'm from Texas and my niece and nephew call my dad "Bumpy." It came from my niece not being able to say "Grampa." For a while, he was called "Grumpy," which we all thought was hilarious. Though I'm from Texas, this is the first time I've ever heard of someone else calling their grandfather "Bumpy." Who knew?!
Posted by: Jason Gray at May 17, 2008 12:20 PMI've never heard of "bumpy"--I called my grandfather Opa (they came from Germany).
Posted by: mj at May 18, 2008 09:11 PMDavid: exactly, yeah. That's part of what I was (poorly, vaguely) handwaving toward with "lay interpretations of Cute Kid Speech".
(Jumping tangent from naive to willful mis-understanding of phonetic output, I wonder if lhat has covered the Hatten är din thing?)
Posted by: Josh Millard at May 19, 2008 10:46 AMMy childhood friend has a young daughter (about 7 now) who refers to her grandfather as "Buppy"--like "puppy", only with a B. Not quite "Bumpy", but pretty close. It was explicitly described to me as "how she pronounced it when she was little". This is in western Pennsylvania.
Posted by: Carrie S. at May 19, 2008 11:05 AMThe only "Bumpy" I've ever heard of is Bumpy Kanahele, a Hawaiian nationalist who opposes the Akaka bill.
There's also Bumpy Johnson, Harlem mobster and cameo character in "American Gangster" - so called, though, because of a bump on the back of his head.
Posted by: ajay at May 20, 2008 10:49 AMMy little brother as a child called our grandfather "bee-pah". That was an invention of his, as far as we're aware. It persists in the family as an affectionate term here and there, but he mostly abandoned it as he got older.
He also rendered "Luke" as "Doo". I guess it was the best he could do at such a young age :)