Эвены и эвенки?
Posted by sredni vashtar at November 26, 2005 03:45 PMI got 264. There are five sign languages in my list.. And also languages where there is controversy about their status as separate languages like Macedonian/Bulgarian, Moldovan/Romanian, Flemish/Dutch. And I am probably wrong about some of the Amerindian languages I listed.
My list is here
I saw Tenser's list - there were so many more that I had forgotten. Like Guraní. I was going to include Piraha but I kept on thinking Piranha. lol. And oh man, I just remembered Haida and Comanche. Darnit.
--Chris
Posted by Christopher Sundita at November 26, 2005 05:43 PMBy continent will make this easier.
OK... Haida, Tlingit, Yup'ik, Dogrib, Slavey, Carrier, Cree, Ojibwe, Inuktitut, Inupiaq, Inuvialuktun, Yuit, Mohawk, Chinook, Apachean languages, Muscogee, Kikapu, Seminole, Oneida, Alabama, Atakapa, Choctaw, Cheyenne, Massachusett, Digueño, Zuñi, Yuma, Kiliwa, Cocopa, Maricopa, Shoshone, Nahuatl, O'odham, Yavapai, Walapai, Havasupai, Yaqui, Zapotec, Quiche, Lakota, Cherokee, Carib, Guarani, Hopi, Ute, Paiute, Nez Perce, Salishan languages, Kakchiel, Tiwa, Tewa, Towa, Garifuna, Mapudungun, Quechua, Aymara, Tupi, Taino.
Lots more, but this is boring me... *sigh*
Posted by Mark Williamson at November 26, 2005 06:12 PMTSTT forgot Sesotho, but I know you didn't, right?
;-)
I stopped at 350. Mark, I don't think Seminole, Cheyenne or Massachusett have speakers anymore.
Posted by Claire at November 26, 2005 09:56 PMAren't there 100 dialects of Inuit, based on their different words for snow?
Posted by John Emerson at November 26, 2005 10:38 PMMark, I don't think Seminole, Cheyenne or Massachusett have speakers anymore.
Seminole and Cheyenne assuredly DO still have speakers. But Massachusett hasn't been spoken natively since the early 19th century or thereabouts.
Posted by David Costa at November 27, 2005 01:36 PMIn Mark's list, I think Atakapa and Massachusett are the only languages that are unequivocally extinct.
Posted by David Costa at November 27, 2005 01:48 PMDamn, I had Massachusett too. Make that 241.
How about Coptic (on the Tensor's list)?
Posted by language hat at November 27, 2005 01:57 PMCool! I love being wrong about dead languages.
I don't know about Coptic - I have a vague feeling it's known only as a liturgical language, so if Latin counts it should too, but otherwise not.
I think, not that anyone should care, that liturgical languages should be included.
I remember reading that the dead liturgical language is called Ge'ez or Ethiopic. I haven't been able to Google Ge'ez contrastive to Coptic. Perhaps Coptic is the Hellenistic version, and Ge'ez a later (also extinct) descendant of Coptic.
Posted by John Emerson at November 27, 2005 04:33 PM
Ge'ez is the liturgical language of Ethiopia; it bears a relationship to Amharic similar to that of Sanskrit to the modern Indic languages. Coptic is a distant relation, the later version of Ancient Egyptian.
Posted by languagehat at November 27, 2005 05:03 PMThen I would say that Coptic is thoroughly, utterly dead. But I'd list Amharic and Ge'ez separately as two languages, based on the liturgical exemption.
Posted by John Emerson at November 27, 2005 06:02 PMi saw some statistics for the community college i tutor at: students here represent 140 countries & 90 languages. and i thought: i can't even NAME 90 languages.
m.
I tried this when I first saw the Tensor's post. I got ~155 (some of which are probably wrong in one way or another, but I didn't really feel like checking them all against Ethnologue). I could certainly have got more if I'd spent longer on it, but I was really just trying to beat his 138 :-). Looking at his list afteward, I realized that I even omitted languages which I'd thought of while making the list but had set aside for when I reached the appropriate part of the globe.
I'd be inclined to include liturgical languages too, but didn't for this exercise.
Posted by Tim May at November 30, 2005 12:09 PMby the way, are the two Siberian languages Yakut and Yokuts?
Posted by Claire at December 1, 2005 10:06 AMNo, the first commenter had it: it was Even and Evenk. Sorry, I should have mentioned that in my first comment for those who don't read Russian!
Posted by language hat at December 1, 2005 11:33 AM@Chris:
I got 264. (...) And also languages where there is controversy about their status as separate languages like (...) Flemish/Dutch.
I don't think there's any controversy about the status of Flemish. It's a group of (iirc three groups of) dialects spoken in northern Belgium (Flanders). The other examples you give are controversial in as far as the goverments of these countries officially declare the languages/dialects as a different language, Flanders (i.e. Belgium) certainly does not. Did you also count Croation/Bosnian/Serbian as different languages?
Posted by Kilian Hekhuis at December 2, 2005 09:22 AMIm verry busy writing a new language
I am doing this toghether with raising funds for clean drinking water for poor countries
i would like to know if the waterlanguage does exist.
Its language da aquarikki or H2o