I saw this a few months ago before it was up and running. I decided to give it a test. A Rom acquaintace of mine works at an NGO dealing with Roma human rights. Romani has become one of the recognized languages in Europe, and so there is a lot of work translating documents into Romanes, which is pretty much symbolic, since almost nobody involved in non-governmental Roma life spends much of their time reading EU documents in Romanes.
My friend's problem was that there is no agreed on Romani word for the abstract term "society." There is "how we do things" and "how the Gaje do things." Most modern "mashkartemengipe" (international) written Romani is based on the Lovara dialect, which lists a Hungarian loan word "tarsasago" (from Hung. 'tarsasag'.) Romanian varieties use terms based on Romanian, and most of the other eastern dialects use the slavic "drustvo.'In Burgenland you get "farajn" from 'verein.' But there is no commonly agreed term for "society" that is used in written international Romani.
Now, you don't want to translate all your EU documents with phrases in which "adapt to society" is expressed by the somewhat awkward phrase "adapt to the way Gaje do things."
The same friend pointed out to me that, on the other hand, Romani has two definate terms for different kinds of fart. One for loud messy ones, and one for silent-but-deadlies.
Lovari:
khaj: fart (noiseless)
ril:fart (audible)
Kalderash:
řîl: fart (noisy)
khaj: 1. smell, stench 2. fart
East Slovak Romani:
riľ: fart
khaň: fart
To quote my friend, what can you do with a language that has no abstract term for society, but two separate terms for fart?
I can see I will have a lot of fun with this over Nitl...er... the Holidays... I see the term for 'sausage' "goj" is extremely widespread, whereas I had thought it pretty local. Thanks for making my christmas 'but feder losho!'
Posted by zaelic at December 23, 2005 11:32 AMMerry Christmas, all of you, Hat and fans of Hat!!!
How do I learn more about the cale'?
I'm enjoying listening to Radio Tarifa these days.
Posted by jean-pierre at December 23, 2005 11:33 PM